Giorgio Bertini's Comments

I have just posted this at Twine:

Thanks Pierre for this bookmark. Another interesting project by David Price, together with Debategraph, taking conversations and dialogue further for human understanding and knowledge building.

As a new member of Global Sensemaking I would like to invite the members/friends of this Twine to join us.

http://www.twine.com/item/11g3v3xv7-1q3/global-sensemaking

Related Item: http://www.twine.com/item/11wb6cbq4-17v/debategraph

I'd appreciate knowing more about you personally in addition to your google partner page.

I am an italo-chilean engineer and economist, with MA and PhD Studies, for some twenty years devoted to action research on conversations, learning and change, particularly conversational social learning and social change in local/regional participatory process, planning and management. I have worked for the European Commission and several United Nation agencies as consultant; and Universitá di Roma (It), University of Cambridge (UK), Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM) and Universidad de Chile as research fellow or lecturer. Presently I am developing an e-coaching and learning project, Conversaciones Locales, for local change agents from Italy and Latin America, building a collaborative learning network of regional Universities and Technical Colleges, using several collaborative internet technologies.

Hi Giorgio!
I knew that you would like "globalsensemaking" after I read about conversaciones-locales.org...

Thanks Pierre. I have to learn my way in, and find synergy with other dialogical spaces.

Hi, Giorgio.

Welcome to the group—and great to encounter you in another space.

Let us know if you think that any one within your network of universities and technical colleges would be interested in participating in Essence 2009—and are you aware of Luca's work at the University of Naples?

David

Hi David,

Thanks for the two ideas: Essence and Luca's work. These are my tasks of learning my way in and finding synergy between dialogical spaces. I will study and come back to you. Thanks again.

hi Giorgio,

I read this in the 'Huffington Post' and thought you may be interested:

* http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/02/man-versus-machine_n_140115.html

It's about man versus machine and includes comments from leading economists and AI specialists about whether the financial crisis could have been prevented if humans had harnessed the technology better.

hi Giorgio,

Twine = never the Twain shall meet.

We've gone our separate ways.

I'm going to publish more on Google KNOL in the future and also on debategraph.org as well as on helium.com.

Sense mapping still has some way to go; mindmeister and debategraph and some of the Flash work from www.bestario.org are good beginnings.

Now that I'm off-Twine I'll be doing more of my own code work.

I'd like to get to some kind of 3D sensemaking where we can tessellate and follow information strands the way MSNBC's prototype Spectra does:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/components/spectra/index.html


It would be quite powerful to tie this in with Google Finance into some 3D sense-making tool, I believe!

Please also see this company: Quantum4D

http://www.quantum4d.com/applications.html

They also have some very interesting economic modeling and visualization tools for country and financial market information. Unfortunately, they only have an enterprise offering.

What the world really needs is some sort of open source version. It can be built with Papervision3D, an open source venture from MIT labs.

Anyway, lots of code work for me to think about re. how it all fits together...

Giorgio,

There are some really interesting posts on the financial crisis on Google KNOL by a fellow of the CATO Policy institute:


* http://knol.google.com/k/daniel-j-mitchell/rebuttal-to-opening-arguments-what/1qyb3tqu8kect/1?locale=en#


You can see my comments on that thread.

It's unfortunate events with Twine turned out as they did. My associations with Google KNOL precede my associations with Twine.

A friend at Google recommended me as a very early contributor to KNOL and moving forward I'm going to be there on their debates strand, etc. where serious policy makers are trying to make sense of the world's "wicked problems" and find solutions.

hi Giorgio,

Well, I hope your plans for the first Twinerian conference in the Maldives progresses well, my friend :*).

Meanwhile, I've taken it upon myself to try and write something about the Global Brain and more on the financial crisis within Google Knol's debates area:

* http://knol.google.com/k/twain-luu/the-global-brain-singularity-and-360/31fjy9fjsu1x2/19#

* http://knol.google.com/k/john-irons/rebuttal-the-emergency-economic/z39ex4tdrfqd/3?locale=en&pli=1#view


Now that Obama is elected I hope he will continue to "walk the talk" as I explained previously:

* http://www.twine.com/item/11kmpp5y3-1j1/ron-howard-s-call-to-action-from-ron-howard-and-henry-winkler


cheers,

Twain.

ok, i got here :)

and saw that twain is here too!

Thanks Giorgio--this looks like a very interesting place! (running out of time for all my attention spans to focus!!!) Hey, are you doubling up that Ambassadorship? Better keep the books straight...

http://www.globalsensemaking.net/forum/topics/giorgio-ambassador-to-the

Thanks for the welcome Giorgio, very nice to see you here. I just discovered this site, looks great.