Global Sensemaking Agenda and Action Plan? - Global Sensemaking2024-03-29T11:46:35Zhttp://globalsensemaking.net/forum/topics/2052744:Topic:3043?commentId=2052744%3AComment%3A3715&feed=yes&xn_auth=noNicely done, Andy.
I added a…tag:globalsensemaking.net,2008-06-05:2052744:Comment:37632008-06-05T14:34:09.000ZJack Parkhttp://globalsensemaking.net/profile/JackPark
Nicely done, Andy.<br />
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I added a few comments.<br />
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I also added a Bibliography <a href="http://globalsensemaking.wik.is/Bibliography"><u>page</u></a>. In my own comments on that page, I point out that if I were to just copy and paste my literature review bibliography into the wiki, it now spans roughly 12 MS Word pages, meaning the Bibliography at the wiki would be an enormous page. I suggest that perhaps we need a set of top level categories as a way to break the Bibliography up into separate…
Nicely done, Andy.<br />
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I added a few comments.<br />
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I also added a Bibliography <a href="http://globalsensemaking.wik.is/Bibliography"><u>page</u></a>. In my own comments on that page, I point out that if I were to just copy and paste my literature review bibliography into the wiki, it now spans roughly 12 MS Word pages, meaning the Bibliography at the wiki would be an enormous page. I suggest that perhaps we need a set of top level categories as a way to break the Bibliography up into separate pages.<br />
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I'd like to know what others think before I start tossing in references. Been. Did some. Great job And…tag:globalsensemaking.net,2008-06-05:2052744:Comment:37612008-06-05T13:44:56.000ZGeorge E. Mobushttp://globalsensemaking.net/profile/GeorgeEMobus
Been. Did some. Great job Andy. Thanks.
Been. Did some. Great job Andy. Thanks. Thanks Andy,
The way forward…tag:globalsensemaking.net,2008-06-05:2052744:Comment:37432008-06-05T08:40:48.000ZDavid Pricehttp://globalsensemaking.net/profile/DavidPrice
Thanks Andy,<br />
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The way forward text is spot on from my perspective—and I'll gladly participate in the way that you outline, and gladly second you for the project management role (with the request that you don't suffer in silence at any point if the volunteer workload feels as if is becoming too great or the time that you have available for the role becomes temporarily compressed).<br />
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David
Thanks Andy,<br />
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The way forward text is spot on from my perspective—and I'll gladly participate in the way that you outline, and gladly second you for the project management role (with the request that you don't suffer in silence at any point if the volunteer workload feels as if is becoming too great or the time that you have available for the role becomes temporarily compressed).<br />
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David This has been a good discussi…tag:globalsensemaking.net,2008-06-05:2052744:Comment:37412008-06-05T07:58:43.000ZAndy Streichhttp://globalsensemaking.net/profile/AndyS
This has been a good discussion. Here's my contribution: <a href="http://globalsensemaking.wik.is/User:AndyStreich/A_Way_Forward">http://globalsensemaking.wik.is/User:AndyStreich/A_Way_Forward</a>. I'm volunteering for a project management role which I briefly describe at that link.
This has been a good discussion. Here's my contribution: <a href="http://globalsensemaking.wik.is/User:AndyStreich/A_Way_Forward">http://globalsensemaking.wik.is/User:AndyStreich/A_Way_Forward</a>. I'm volunteering for a project management role which I briefly describe at that link. Here's an idea. If anyone wan…tag:globalsensemaking.net,2008-06-05:2052744:Comment:37282008-06-05T01:07:59.000ZMark Kleinhttp://globalsensemaking.net/profile/MarkKlein
Here's an idea. If anyone wants a collaboratorium account, send me an email at m_klein@mit.edu
Here's an idea. If anyone wants a collaboratorium account, send me an email at m_klein@mit.edu David,
I created a GSM space…tag:globalsensemaking.net,2008-06-05:2052744:Comment:37242008-06-05T00:57:28.000ZMark Kleinhttp://globalsensemaking.net/profile/MarkKlein
David,<br />
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I created a GSM space on the Collaboratorium, and sent you an account invitation. Currently, only the admin (me, for now) can create accounts, so I need the names and email addresses for the people who are interested in accounts. Is there a quick way for me to get that info?<br />
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I'm not sure what topic to pick. What do you suggest?<br />
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Mark
David,<br />
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I created a GSM space on the Collaboratorium, and sent you an account invitation. Currently, only the admin (me, for now) can create accounts, so I need the names and email addresses for the people who are interested in accounts. Is there a quick way for me to get that info?<br />
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I'm not sure what topic to pick. What do you suggest?<br />
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Mark Mark,
It would be great to u…tag:globalsensemaking.net,2008-06-05:2052744:Comment:37222008-06-05T00:44:52.000ZDavid Pricehttp://globalsensemaking.net/profile/DavidPrice
Mark,<br />
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It would be great to use the Collaboratorium for one (or more) of the activities on the agenda.<br />
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Would you like to pick an activity that appeals, set up an appropriate area in Collaboratorium, and point us towards it whenever you are ready?<br />
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David
Mark,<br />
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It would be great to use the Collaboratorium for one (or more) of the activities on the agenda.<br />
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Would you like to pick an activity that appeals, set up an appropriate area in Collaboratorium, and point us towards it whenever you are ready?<br />
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David Seems like we are talking abo…tag:globalsensemaking.net,2008-06-04:2052744:Comment:37152008-06-04T23:04:19.000ZJack Parkhttp://globalsensemaking.net/profile/JackPark
Seems like we are talking about a different question than the one to which I responded above. Issues of sensemaking 101: figure out what the subject identity is--the identity of the issue being answered.<br />
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George, like you I don't have time to chase ideas around multiple media and multiple threads. I much prefer them organized by subject; in some sense, a dialogue map does a portion of that, which is why I "got on-board" your later question, which followed Mark's suggestion to begin using a…
Seems like we are talking about a different question than the one to which I responded above. Issues of sensemaking 101: figure out what the subject identity is--the identity of the issue being answered.<br />
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George, like you I don't have time to chase ideas around multiple media and multiple threads. I much prefer them organized by subject; in some sense, a dialogue map does a portion of that, which is why I "got on-board" your later question, which followed Mark's suggestion to begin using a mapping tool.<br />
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I think there is merit in "assigning" an individual or small group to sort out something and "report back". But, counting active heads, we are already a small group with less than half-dozen out of 40-something members of this tribe. The core theme is <i>collective</i> sensemaking.<br />
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David and I talked about this earlier today using Skype. It seems that there is an underlying frustration growing out of using tools that don't support sensemaking in the ways we are trying to pioneer the sport; we need to use dialogue maps to conduct dialogues. Let's find such tools and use them, knowing there are three options (could add TopicSpaces in a pinch, making 4). Two (not counting TopicSpaces) of the three use indented outline form; I'm growing used to talking in DebateGraph, look forward to using the collaboratorium. Also have successfully used Compendium online. We have options.<br />
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I like the idea of conducting "back door" discussions of the rambling kind in a wiki, then taking the ideas to the map.<br />
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For protocol, the purpose of each dialogue map sets the context, just as a World Cafe is created for a given theme, then tables-for-four are set for specific aspects associated with that theme. IBIS itself already provides a protocol for user gestures.<br />
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Over time, I'll try to groom TopicSpaces to harvest the dialogues and feed back in some iframe query what the map "knows" about different subjects. If each dialogue node is addressable, people can annotate and connect it through Cohere and tag it through Tagomizer. With a small group and absent Google discovering TopicSpaces, I'm happy to make an <u><a href="http://www.topicspaces.org:8080/wiki/">instance</a></u> of it available to test ideas.<br />
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Just my tenth EURO. Actually, my original questio…tag:globalsensemaking.net,2008-06-04:2052744:Comment:37102008-06-04T22:47:20.000ZGeorge E. Mobushttp://globalsensemaking.net/profile/GeorgeEMobus
Actually, my original question wasn't what tools should we use, it was shouldn't we define how we are going to use whatever we decide on. In this case, my concern was that the wiki platform would turn into another comment stream without any structure or pre-agreement as to what we would put in those pages.<br />
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Ward Cunningham told a conference audience, a few years ago (if memory serves), that the best practices he'd seen for wikis was where a group had established a protocol for content…
Actually, my original question wasn't what tools should we use, it was shouldn't we define how we are going to use whatever we decide on. In this case, my concern was that the wiki platform would turn into another comment stream without any structure or pre-agreement as to what we would put in those pages.<br />
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Ward Cunningham told a conference audience, a few years ago (if memory serves), that the best practices he'd seen for wikis was where a group had established a protocol for content development and collaboration before launching the application. I think Wikipedia is a good example of getting the protocols (mostly) right before allowing people in. They used the page typing mechanism in MediaWiki to structure the kinds of interactions. Of course in that application they relied on competitive-cooperative processes of self-organization to produce the outcomes. But the structure and protocols constrained the process and I think it worked out pretty well.<br />
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So my comments here are directed at pre-establishing a protocol and externally agreed upon content purpose for the wiki. As I explained, I just don't have time to chase ideas around multiple media and multiple threads.<br />
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I suggest Andy provide some oversight (if he accepts the nomination) and guide some development of guidelines for content production and placement. Or David. This is all in the interest of time. I'm not sure we have the luxury of letting self-organization do its magic. But if others feel differently, I'm a team player. I suspect I am "on-board" wit…tag:globalsensemaking.net,2008-06-04:2052744:Comment:37062008-06-04T22:31:21.000ZJack Parkhttp://globalsensemaking.net/profile/JackPark
I suspect I am "on-board" with Mark's suggestion for two main reasons, one of which is my experience tells me that information is really hard to find in threaded discussions where, often as not, the subject changes within the threads. The other reason is that I think that tiny subject lines as in Compendium force people to be concise and say precisely what they want conveyed in short phrases, amplifying the thought, justifying it, relating it, etc, within the text body of each node. Along that…
I suspect I am "on-board" with Mark's suggestion for two main reasons, one of which is my experience tells me that information is really hard to find in threaded discussions where, often as not, the subject changes within the threads. The other reason is that I think that tiny subject lines as in Compendium force people to be concise and say precisely what they want conveyed in short phrases, amplifying the thought, justifying it, relating it, etc, within the text body of each node. Along that thought, my own experience has been that I like to work in Compendium, but, on the Web, I implement outline formats as does DebateGraph and the collaboratorium. I like both of them; my TopicSpaces project uses something closer to the collaboratorium except that it uses the Compendium node icons, seeking to maintain the visual vocabulary that Compendium is offering. In comparison to DebateGraph, I like to get as much of the outline in view as possible, meaning, I would prefer if DebateGraph would show the text bodies on mouseover or at least offer an option to hide them in order to get a larger view of the landscape.<br />
I also prefer that each node in a dialogue map is uniquely addressable for referencing elsewhere.<br />
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This is the thread about the agenda and action plans, and we are now deciding which tools to use. That topic is an agenda item, but, in a dialogue map, it could, be discussed in a nested map, one devoted to that agenda item. The way we would do that here is create another Forum thread for each agenda item, and leave this thread to just hash out which items to discuss.